Avid Amoeba

Good point.

Fuck me, I hadn’t looked at it this way and I should have.

Sounds a bit copyright infringey, but I imagine their lawyers have cleared it. Not that I’m a fan of copyright.

The US has plenty of political prisoners

Yes.

Again, it’s not clear to me what basis there to suggest that USSR or China ratio being higher.

I don’t know if it’s higher I just think it’s not zero.

Originally I replied to this:

Imagine having a Government that uses political prisoners as forced laborers.

It was about political prisoners not general incarcerated population. The aforementioned regimes did hold political prisoners for obvious reasons.

Yes crime skyrocketed after the fall of those regimes.

Has anyone checked Meta? I’m thinking if he’s gotten this idea, Zuckerberg might not be far behind.

I’m talking about other one-party communist regimes like the ones in the USSR, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia, East Germany, etc. Yes I’m aware they’re they’re not identical, including in rates of political prisoners. The one I’m from had relatively few.

Sure but I think it probably isn’t as easy to gather evidence for this in China than it is in the US. That’s why I think it’s fair to assume the lack of evidence doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. There’s evidence this occurred in collapsed regimes of similar stripes. It’s plausible that China isn’t an exception. I’m not at all suggesting whether this is widespread or not. I have no clue. It could be extremely rare.

No question about the incarceration rates.

Starvation isn’t the only alternative.

I understand what you’re saying and under strict definitions it isn’t slavery. By the same token people working in sweatshops in Southeast Asia don’t fit the definition. Yet colloquially the word is still being used. I think because some of us think that freedom and compensation aren’t as much of a line in the sand as it appears at first glance. You could say that slaves in the US were compensated with food and shelter, and that they didn’t feel the deal was bad enough to mount a rebellion. I don’t think we should determine what the lowest standard for labor is by what some people seem to be okay with. Especially if those people aren’t given an easy path to organize. I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying. I’m merely exploring why I use the term.

BTW we have a lawful system for all of this in Canada. Working conditions aren’t great. Farmers and large corporations are happy to exploit workers in ways that Canadians aren’t willing to accept. Even when it comes to natural born citizens, deplorable working conditions have historically been common prior to workers organizing and literally fighting for better.

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That’s a funny way to put it, but kinda sorta true. Anti-cannabis laws for majority black users…

They’re admitting to using slave-like labor to generate their profits. It goes well beyond rhetoric.

Reading through this … it sounds much worse than I thought.

System providers should avoid recommendation algorithms that create “echo chambers” and induce addiction, allow manipulation of trending items, or exploit gig workers’ rights, the notice said.

They should also crack down on unfair pricing and discounts targeting different demographics, ensure “healthy content” for elderly and children, and impose a robust “algorithm review mechanism and data security management system”.

Skeptical but damn these sentences contain all the right words.

System providers should avoid recommendation algorithms that create “echo chambers” and induce addiction, allow manipulation of trending items, or exploit gig workers’ rights, the notice said.

They should also crack down on unfair pricing and discounts targeting different demographics, ensure “healthy content” for elderly and children, and impose a robust “algorithm review mechanism and data security management system”.

Why not both?

How could for-profit media ever survive this? They’re incentivised to move with the flow in order to maintain profit whether or not this flow leads in the direction of truth or democracy. I have a feeling that for-profit media isn’t able to to fulfill the role of media required for a working democracy.

You shouldn’t have abysmal performance with ZFS. Something must be up.