• Boomkop3@reddthat.com
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    1 day ago

    No. The earth doesn’t get flat no matter how much people you get to believe it. As for opinions, they’re still just opinions. There’s no right and wrong opinion.

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      1 day ago

      If you describe an opinion as right or wrong, you are talking about the opinion’s relation to reality. And opinions certainly do have such relation.

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        1 day ago

        No, whether or not you like the colour blue does not matter to reality. Whether you consider it blue is, but that is not an opinion.

        opinions aren’t fact. They’re just a subjective bit of meaning you’ve got in your head, and only in your head.

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          13 hours ago

          Nothing matters to reality. “Mattering” is a human judgement. “Fact” is also a human judgement. The things you have in your head that you call facts and opinions are both the same kind of thing. We consider the ones that model reality effectively to be facts. They are all opinions and discerning which we classify as facts is an ongoing process.

          I did not say opinions are fact. And I am not saying that opinions change reality. But your assertions about what facts and opinions are is incorrect.

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            10 hours ago

            Ehen we’re going into the more abstract discussion of facts and opinions, it might be better to define how you’re using these terms rather than throw accusations.

            Most people define fact as “a thing that is true”. And opinion as “how one feels about something”.

            Personally I prefer to use fact as “a statement that can be checked”. But in every day conversation like here, I don’t. Because that would just confuse most people.

            What are you using?

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          11 hours ago

          Very true, we murder people all the time in the US when they do something horrific enough for us to dole out that punishment. Lots of everyday people are convinced it’s okay to do so.