• veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world
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      I feel you bro. Especially the endless stroads and parking lots. We lost a lot to make a suburbia we can’t even take ownership of.

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      that’s part of it, but also the continental US is massive and divided by two pretty impactful mountain ranges. Not defending our lack of train infrastructure but we came of age pretty much in line with the rise of the Jet era along with our culture of individualism and the massive expansion of public interstate hiways due to one specific president’s expierence as them being useful tools for self powered land based military vehicles so obviously that was prioritized over investing in new rail infrastructure in the interceding years.

      Point being, there’s a lot of spinning plates involved with why we are where we are in regards our national rail network—would be nice to hop on an hourly train and zoop from Boston to LA in 6 hrs for like $50 but we also just elected Trump again for incomprehensible reasons so in all likelihood there will be a nuclear wasteland in between those two cities, which will need additional plates to be spun up to deal with.

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        The USA is a lot older than 70 years, so no the USA did not come of age in the jet era. It would be a lot more accurate to say that the modern USA came together in the age of trains, because it was trains that connected east + west together (+the bits in the middle). There used to be passenger trains between all major cities + many towns literally grew around the railways. That train infrastructure is still there, but now there are just very few passenger lines running on them.

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          Even worse some were repurposed to trails. I mean, I love having trails too and these days use them more than trains, but once rail loses a right of way, the cost to build service skyrockets.

          Why can’t I have a trail made from closed down stroads instead of closed down rails?

          I was just reading something advocating for restoring useful passenger rail to Cape Cod. I should have made the connection years ago but somehow never did - there’s an amazing rail trail through the national seashore area …… but it used to be passenger rail the length of the Cape. And many of these towns, including P-Town all the way out, already have nice walkable centers that would do well with trains.

          We desperately need rail service here. Not only is Cape Cod environmentally sensitive but the bridges are way overloaded. Even if we were to expand the bridges, there’s nowhere for the cars to go. There’s just too many. All too often I’ve sat in traffic for hours listening to the radio blather on about “43 mile backup to the Cape” just to finally get there and be stuck in traffic. We need a train (and no, the Cape Codder is really not especially useful)

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        Isn’t the USA about the same size as Europe? I think Europe might actually be bigger. We also have a bunch of mountain range dividing up our continent too.

        (Not denying the rest of your comment, just pointing out)

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          Isn’t the USA about the same size as Europe?

          if you include eastern, and western europe, they’re comparable. The problem here is that most of the US population is centered on the coasts, and in the midwest, and a bit of the south, so most rail infrastructure would be useful there, everything between about illinois, and nevada is a wasteland of like, 12 people living there.

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    It really is crazy how bad the US rail system is. The last time I was taking a trip of about 1000 miles, I looked into taking amtrak. Not only was it more expensive than driving or flying, but it would take significantly longer as well, at 3 days. I know the train themselves are moving faster, and it’s due to stops, but that’s like 15mh average speed. What year is it?!?

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      Actually, the trains aren’t moving faster. I don’t think there’s a single significant span of passenger rail rated for more than 60mph in the US.

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        NY to DC is solid, it’s the one inter-metro train I’ve taken that’s faster than driving or flying (when accounting for security and travel to/from the airport).

        Using it really makes you realize how much better the train system could be. Not even bullet trains, and they’re so much better than cars.

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    I’m more worried about all the lightning bolts Chicago can shoot out to the rest of the country.

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    Can you drive 120km/h in those areas if you don’t take the train?

    I don’t take the train here even though I have one because it takes too long. A 3-4 hr car trip takes all day with the train having to makes its stops.

    The closest large city is 50 miles (80km) away. I can be there in 45min to an hour depending on traffic. The train takes almost three hours.

    Also, there is no public transportation to get to the train stop which is on the bad side of town and there’s no station to wait inside.

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      You know the difference? I don’t have to actually drive when I take the train. I can do literally anything else, especially if wireless is available.

      It’s like people who say, “I don’t need a dishwasher, I can wash them in half the time!”. Yeah, sure, but I don’t have to fucking wash them. Not to mention the environmental and health benefits which, incidentally, works for trains too.

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        Do what? Listen to music, a podcast or watch a show? Things I already do driving. I hate travelling. I just want to be there. Anything more than 500 miles it’s better to fly anyway. The price difference is negligible.

        Not to mention trains are subsidised by the government yet still cost more than gas even driving a huge SUV.

        Ironically I have a dishwasher but don’t use it. I stick to takeout and paper plates/ platicware. Because it’s faster and easier than doing dishes. You’re right, not only do I not have to do dishes, I don’t have to cook or clean up either.

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            I’m usually with someone else switching out or just listening to something I’ve already seen that’s dialogue heavy. And I always have a 5G signal in the car. You have to pay for wifi on the train and it’s slow af

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      This needs to be higher. The US has the most rail in the world, at over 224,000 miles. Europe, by comparison, has 94,000 miles. That’s one country having more rail than the total of a whole continent.

      The map down in the meme appears to only be Amtrak.

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        Amtrak service.

        Amtrak owns the Northeast Corridor (Boston to DC) track and not much else

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      They make up for what they don’t have in volume by having crazy cheap and fast trains instead.

      They also build them remarkably cheap as well. We should all be envious of Spain.

      Portugal not included on account of being an Eastern European country

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      Spain has the second largest high speed rail network in the world. They’re doing alright.