• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    22 hours ago

    What is the point of the meme? How is it not ridiculing/dismissing the desire of a man to feel manly? Something that rightfully usually finds support here for trans man.

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      21 hours ago

      Because it’s not ridiculing someone for feeling manly, it’s ridiculing the kind of person that goes around stating they’re manly as fuck all the time, going out of their way to show how manly they are and generally making “manliness” their entire personality.

      • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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        13 hours ago

        Where does it say that?

        The post in the picture, just completely dismiss any possibility other than a man wanting to feel superior.

        That is the starting point, that is what I am talking about.

        The comment in the picture provides us with a story and context but it is not the same story or context because it is a different user sharing their experience. I have no issue with that.

        The reaction gif is implying that you aren’t a man if you express that you want to feel like one.

        Where does it say that you say it says? Where does it state that it is about making it your entire personality? Where does it say, it is about people who want to show how manly they? Where does it state that they don’t like a man stating that they are so manly? It seems to be about the opposite. A man who struggles with feeling manly. Where does it state that it is something the person does all the time?

        Some of these are inconsequential in some scenarios but all of them highlight how much you read in there that just is not present to justify toxic language and behavior.

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          7 hours ago

          The reaction gif is implying that you aren’t a man if you express that you want to feel like one.

          Doesn’t say that anywhere on the gif

          • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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            6 hours ago

            You are correct, technically it doesn’t. It is about kings, and the poster tells you to replace king with man.

            Also technically it is saying that a trans person who tells you that they are a man, is not a real man. I mean trans men are men.

            But I don’t think that is a fair reading of the text. But sure you can read the message that I call toxic, as a toxic message to men in general and especially towards trans men. I just don’t see where you want to go with that.

            Alternatively, and admittedly, I am reading it in the context of the post in which it is about men expressing that they want to feel manly. Still toxic, and implicitly transphobic, but at least matching the post.