• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 days ago

    To the accelerationists the lives of the Palestinian people are the cost of doing business. Dirtying their hands by voting Democrat would inconvenience them by violating their moral compass. Even though Harris pledged to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza. The magnitude and scope of an indefinite genocide were immaterial to accelerationists. By contributing to Harris’ loss they achieved a moral victory over the progressives and socialists who are also anti-racist, but were willing to leverage power for the benefit of the Palestinian people.

    Read this comment section and what the users arguing against democracy had to say. Then watch the video and see how the video is talking about their arguments and their refusal to leverage power for the benefit of others. Their arguments have to twist the video’s words and hope you don’t watch it.

    In a democracy, voting is how we leverage power in elections. When we show up, we win. The accelerationists weren’t willing to show up for Palestinians, who they professed to care about. They aren’t going to show up for Palestinians, trans people, or anyone for elections in 2026 and 2028. A user argues, in this comment section, against utilizing elections.

    Assuming we continue to have elections, please reject accelerationism. Things do not get better by making them worse. Things only get better by learning from our mistakes and using that knowledge to make things better.

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      15 days ago

      Kamala “I Won’t Change Biden’s Israel Policy” Harris pledged to do everything in her power did she?

      Is that the same power Biden has, such as overriding congress to ship weapons to Israel? Or maybe it was rejecting Palestine voices at the DNC events?

      Harris and the Dems were never going to reverse course on Palestine. They’d already taken their millions in J Street and AIPAC bribes, and their action and lack of advocacy has been clear since day 1.

    • sigh We shouldn’t have to constantly bring up every possible angle, every possible nuance, just to avoid accusations like this. The accelerationists are for sure another example of this. I wrote a more detailed explanation in another comment.

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        Accelerationism is a self-defeating strategy that harms us all. Part of the bare minimum of doing the work between elections is calling out accelerationism’s false promises. It takes little effort, but it’s important to highlight the uselessness of this ideology. If we do not learn from all the failures of this election we will be doomed to repeat them in the future.

        People are arguing against participating in elections to help minorities in this comment section. The video is in no small part about people refusing to leverage power to help minorities. This is not an issue of nuance. The arguments the video is referring to and the arguments in this comment section are a one to one match.

        The meme misrepresents the video, which in facts calls out people for their inaction the same way the commenter in the meme is doing. It is in fact this meme that is attempting, unsuccessfully for another moral victory at the expense of the Palestinians. This meme does nothing to help the Palestinians, it is just seeking moral victory over those who would leverage power for the Palestinians.

        The commenter’s argument and the video’s argument are the same argument. So the meme is arguing against the video’s argument. edit: typos

        • I’m like 50% sure you’re trolling me here. Was there something specific in the comment I referenced that didn’t make sense? Or did you not read it?

          There’s no moral victory in what I posted. I’m trying to call attention to these useless attacks that disregard Palestinians.

          And I only see one person mentioning not to participate in elections, unless somehow people I’ve blocked are allowed to comment or something?

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            I read your comments and watched the video. This isn’t my first time watching this video.

            I’m trying to call attention to these useless attacks that disregard Palestinians.

            The attacks, your argument refers to, are against accelerationism. Not everyone is going to use that term, but it’s clear based on the statement that is what they are referring to. Gaza was the single issue accelerationists focused on. The accelerationists and this meme are disregarding the Palestinians.

            The commenter’s message and the video’s message are the same. We need to leverage power to help minorities. Arguing against that message is more accelerationism.

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              He’ll yea let’s call people unwilling to vote for someone who won’t stop the genocide accelerationists! Bad faith holier-than-thou bullshit like this is why so many people hate liberals, and will get absolutely zero support for democrats while turning a lot of people away. I’m saying as a Harris voter, it’s an asshole move to call Muslims and immigrants who refuse to vote for a president who will almost certainly do nothing but bad to them be their people “accelerationists” just bc someone else will do worse

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                He’ll yea let’s call people unwilling to vote for someone who won’t stop the genocide accelerationists!

                People are claiming to be accelerationists, arguing that accelerationism is the answer to fascism, making pro-accelerationism memes. The memes have been in the lemmy.world Political Memes community but the rhetoric can be found in political discussions all over lemmy. I would say it’s commonplace at this point.

                Their one issue was pretending to care about the Palestinians. After recent discussions I’ve had today and yesterday, it seems more obvious than ever that accelerationists don’t care about anything but being the most morally pure person in the room.

                Have you seriously not seen anything related to that? Having the self-evident political discourse on lemmy pointed out to you is really the straw that broke your back on hating the libs?

                it’s an asshole move to call Muslims and immigrants

                Are you kidding? It’s mostly white people as far as I can tell. The Palestinians and Muslims I’ve heard from urged people to vote for Harris. Accelerationism seems to require a privileged mindset so a person can turn a blind eye to the actual plight of minorities.

                edit: It’s Political Memes community not politics community for the memes.

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                  11 days ago

                  Show me these people you’re talking who call themselves accelerationists. Because it’s starting to sound suspiciously like that’s just a label you’re applying to people whose praxis you disagree with

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                    Watching everything burn isn’t praxis. Their strategy is to let fascists win, so they aren’t even anti-fascist. It’s self-defeating because it helps no one and gets us further from progressive and socialist goals.

                    I argue with a lot of people arguing for accelerationism so there is my comment and post history. Alternatively you could go through the Political Memes, politics, News, and World News communities. Political Memes would probably be the easiest to find relevant posts and comments.

                    The search bar is a helpful tool for this. Individual communities can be selected to be searched. Searching on accelerationism is a good place to start. Once you find some users arguing against or for this rhetoric you can review their comment and post history.

                    I have been participating in and following along with the political discourse on lemmy. Lots of other people have to. I’m not the only one who has noticed the prevalence of accelerationism rhetoric or the only person arguing against accelertionism.