Olympic gold medalist argues in video that podcaster’s remarks about war in Ukraine is result of Putin-led plot

Summary

Former Ukrainian boxing champion Wladimir Klitschko accused podcaster Joe Rogan of “repeating Russian propaganda” after Rogan criticized U.S. military aid to Ukraine and suggested it could escalate into World War III.

Klitschko defended Ukraine’s resistance against Russia, highlighting the country’s fight for freedom and condemning Rogan’s remarks as aiding Putin’s agenda.

He invited Rogan to discuss their differences on the podcast “like free men.”

Rogan, who recently endorsed Donald Trump, called the war a “proxy war” and criticized Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to strike Russian soil with U.S.-supplied missiles.

  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    9 hours ago

    I don’t consider it a proxy war.

    Ukraine isn’t a US proxy nor is Russia anyone’s proxy.

    • nednobbins@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      I’m not sure why people keep saying this.

      A proxy war has nothing to do with either side being “a proxy.” It only means that one of the sides is being supported by some nations that’s not part of the war. That’s very obviously the case here.

      • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        In political science, a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power. In the term proxy war, a belligerent with external support is the proxy; both belligerents in a proxy war can be considered proxies if both are receiving foreign military aid from a third party country. Acting either as a nation-state government or as a conventional force, a proxy belligerent acts in behalf of a third-party state sponsor.[1]

        I imagine it’s the latter part of the above from Wikipedia and long-term use in Cold War language with that part stressed.

        The “in behalf” is what I believe is missing in the current example unless then Russia is also a proxy of China and North Korea.