• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    You’re asking for me to get specific to an unecessary level to pretend that Russians didn’t influence the elections because I can’t quantify it. Bad faith argument.

    I can’t quantify how many times I took a shit in 2023. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    Now that’s a bad faith argument. You’re the one that’s making all the claims. You’re claiming a Sanders campaign could never stand up to the money and influence of the billionaire class, and it’s you claiming all the evidence of Trump doing exactly that doesn’t count. And while I never said Russian interference didn’t affect the election, you’re the one claiming that it was so influential that it invalidated the grassroots nature of Trump’s campaign.

    You’re the one making proclamations on why Sanders would lose and why Trump won, and you’re the one refusing to back it up with anything other than, “trust me bro.” So, again, back up any of your claims with actual evidence or just STOP TALKING.

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      You’re claiming a Sanders campaign could never stand up to the money and influence of the billionaire class, and it’s you claiming all the evidence of Trump doing exactly that doesn’t count.

      I pointed out the fact that Sanders couldn’t win a primary without the added difficulty of funding a campaign.

      That’s not a claim that’s a fact.

      And while I neversaid Russian interference didn’t affect the election, you’rethe one claiming that it was so influential that it invalidated the grassroots nature of Trump’s campaign.

      You’re the one claiming that Trump won because of a grassroots campaign without any evidence to support that. How can you verify a grassroots campaign is sole reason Trump won when there are Russian bots using social media accounts to tip the scales in his favor?

      That’s called confirmation bias. You’ve provided no evidence of the claims you’ve made. While I have only stated facts.