• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    The term “concentration camps” usually doesn’t refer to places people volunteer to go to. The headline’s clickbait enough as it is.

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      4 hours ago

      Love how people actually believe that RFK’s labor camp plan is voluntary, just because he said “where you can choose to go”.

      4 years of hearing Trump and his cohorts lie about literally everything, and you’re ready for another 4 of giving them the benefit of a doubt. Truly breathtaking naïveté.

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        1 hour ago

        So what you’re saying is that the reality isn’t bad enough so we need to make shit up and exaggerate everything? Because I disagree with that. I think things are bad enough that you can just be truthful about it, and lying is actually counterproductive because it discredits legitimate criticism.

        Like if you want to talk about concentration camps, we’ve already got them for undocumented migrants.

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          38 minutes ago

          Camps like this already exist for kids and teenagers, the best example is the Elan school. Though they have been having increased pushback this could be a way to keep them running by including adults. Basically nobody should trust this idea on the base concept, since even if RFK Jr is legit trying to do a good thing with ernest sincerity he is still putting things in place to enable such abuse.

          Also even if it starts out voluntary I garunfuckentee it will be involuntary via court order eventually. It will most likely start as a addict rehab but quickly evolve into a place to shove mentally ill folks into.

      • Donkter@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        Yeah “choose to go” is a euphemism for “parents can decide to send their children against their will”

  • PoopDelivery@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit Ritalin! Not that it matters, 99% of us are getting fucked to some depth. Disadvantaged people first, then minorities and women, as is custom.

  • socsa@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    If trans people and Adderall people are outlawed then there will be no tech industry left.

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      7 hours ago

      Man who frequently lies is misquoted in a way that is more in line with what he probably meant based on previous statements and actions.

      I’m not surprised.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
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        8 hours ago

        Yeah sorry should have been more clear I suppose. The narrative they’re trying to perpetuate is that nobody is ill and all of the prescription drugs are unnecessary, and that all the people taking medication for their illnesses really just want to be off of it but have no ability.

        Realistically, yeah he’s going to build the camps, and then it’s a very short hop skip and a jump to court orders putting people there.

        To be honest they should just do an opinion piece saying exactly what we know he’s going to do. We don’t need him to pretend that’s exactly what he said.

        • Leg@sh.itjust.works
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          6 hours ago

          This is a pretty cool example of media bias distorting facts in order to cause kind of a Shiri’s Scissor scenario in the reader based on where they get their news. Liberal source gives an inaccurate, more interpretive story based on what is already known about the parties involved. I’d wager a more conservative source would just give a direct statement of what RFK said here, which sounds fairly reasonable if you have no bias against the man and his team. Discussing this point becomes incredibly controversial between the groups because we have opposing interpretations of the same event, and it’s difficult to come to any understanding without breaking many things down into smaller parts.

          All this is to say I agree, it should have been an opinion piece. It’s dishonest as it is now and would only cause friction, confusion, and raised hackles. We know how troubled teen camps fail kids, and what happens when bad people have power over vulnerable people. The writing is on the wall, but it’s not clear for all of us. Be less inflammatory and more informative, is what I think news should be.

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    9 hours ago

    As a person with ADHD, let me just volunteer the following information; the absolute last thing you want… the last thing you want is for a bunch of people with ADHD to be held on a boring farm. Without medication!

    The phrase “herding cats” doesn’t even come close. And ADHD is often comorbid with sleep phase disorder, which means I’m 100% alert all night without the medication that helps me sleep! That gives me lots and lots of time to be a problem!

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    He’s in the closet about his own mental health issues, one of which is likely him being ADHD AF.

    So like the closeted gay politicians being the harshest proponents of things like conversion therapies, anti-lgbtq views and legislation, the closeted mental-health-problem asshole is anti-actual-medical-treatment of everything, like anti-vax, anti-adderall, etc.

  • K̺͆e̺͆t̺͆a̺͆m̺͆i̺͆n̺͆e̺͆@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    Yeah you can thank all the non diagnosed & non needing taking medication for diagnosed & needing, for that.

    Fuck you, I actually need it and y’all cause shortages globally. Fuck You. “I perform so much better” No actualmy I barely compete WITH and its a fucking battle all day long. From putting my socks on to actually make a wage. Fuck You.

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      12 hours ago

      No fuck YOU for throwing addicts under the bus as if that’s not a legit medical problem. Show me one source that says the cause of the shortage is people “not needing taking”.

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        11 hours ago

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        If you’re wondering, 5 percent of white college students adds up to about 3.75 million people who aren’t necessarily addicts and are effectively wasting supply of the drug.

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    13 hours ago

    “I’m going to make it so people can go, if you’re convicted of a drug offense, or if you have a drug problem, you can go to one of these places for free.”

    Honestly if people can find happiness by getting away from modern society and living a bucolic lifestyle, I’m all for it.

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        10 hours ago

        Fascists don’t use language to convey meaning or truth, they use it as a weapon to manipulate. It’s on purpose that they muddy the meaning of words and won’t define terms even in legal bills so their judges can use the worst interpretation of the broad, vague law like the anti lgbtq law in Russia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_anti-LGBT_law

        It’s the same way they try to count legal immigrants in the US under asylum as illegal criminals and won’t define words like woke unless required by a court.

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      13 hours ago

      That has to be the most charitable interpretation possible of the incoming fascist government’s intent. It’s literally just slave labour with extra steps.

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      13 hours ago

      The implication is they’re farm labor camps, so less living with nature and more picking cotton in the sun all day.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        11 hours ago

        Less picking cotton all day and more fruits and grapes. Or other crops that are still tended by hand, generally by undocumented immigrants.