I don’t care how you feel about the conflict but
NATO: Escalates by giving and allowing Ukraine to strike Russia with longer range missiles
Russia: Retaliates
NATO:
Retaliated.
With the freshly made prototype.
Sure. I’ll believe that when a Rooster wakes me up by name instead of declaring war on the sun.
Russian troll alert
I don’t understand how saying NATO shouldn’t be surprised at this outcome makes my comment somehow pro-russia in any way
Nobody believes that you don’t understand
Think again. Slowly.
I mean it seems pretty logical to me?
One side takes a step they so far haven’t in a war, the other responds. It’s not surprising. This isn’t a statement that’s pro- either side here.
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize the rules were that the defending country had to stay on their side of the line. So Russia can invade neighbors with impunity, but striking Russian soil is just too far.
Stop.
I’m confused from where you are drawing that I said that
It’s more that NATO shouldn’t be (and isn’t really) surprised.
I never said or implied what actions they should or shouldn’t take or anything. Where are y’all getting this?
You’re shifting the framing to “NATO is escalating the conflict.” Motherfucker, Russia can deescalate any time by leaving. Why is the onus on everyone else to not cross any red lines?
I mean it’s definitely not a statement of right or wrong to suggest that taking a new, further step is an escalation above the previous situation.
My dude, if I come to your house and start punching you in the face and you start punching back, are you now escalating the conflict? No. We’re already fucking brawling, and I started it.
Sure, going from being a helpless victim to one fighting back is an escalation. Isn’t always a bad thing?
If you hit someone, dont be surprised when they hit back. Russia can always go home. They are escalating every day they stay. Ukraine needs to be more armed then maybe russia gets the message.
You’re right, I think that Nato should start sending over some soldiers to “help” out the Ukrainians, the way that the Russians have brought in North Koreans.
Lol, interesting way to frame it. Let’s zoom out a bit…
Russia: Starts it
Ukraine: Fights back
Russia: surprised Pikachu
Russia: Escalates
Ukraine’s allies: Supports Ukraine
Russia: Arms on hips guy
That’s very naive to think they wonder about it. There is even a threat of a nuclear strike.
What they do is to plan the next steps.
In my opinion NATO should prepare for war.
That’s very naive to think they wonder about it.
No, NATO wants escalation I understand that. This was the outcome they wanted.
NATO wants Russia to fuck off back home, thanks.
I don’t think Trump would even retaliate if Putin hit the continental U.S. with a missile strike.
You must not remember 9/11 or the events that followed. Any attack on American soil is open season on tearing up American rights and freedoms. We are still getting buttfucked by the Patriot act and it’s been 24 years since it was signed. You really think Trump is going to ignore all his fellow
potheadshothead and turn the other cheek to infallible power?Edit: lol autocorrected hothead to pothead🤷♂️
Well, not just American rights and freedoms. You know, all those US actions and UN votes and vetoes that seem to have only one thing in common - that people in the Middle-East must suffer. It’s as if the American deep state, if such a thing exists, were still punishing them for daring to bring some of the pain to US as feedback.
You know, when the white master erases a couple of cities or does a genocide or two, they were trying for your good, it just went wrong, no hard feelings. And when you respond - you dare, you should be punished.
OK, I’m looping those feelings too much.
You must not remember 9/11 or the events that followed.
He does, that’s why he said that.
If Russians were to hit the US, Trump would probably retaliate by hitting North Korea.
Exactly like Bush - he never hit Saudis, did he?
That’s because Saudi Arabia is an ally. The handful of Saudi Arabian born people that conducted the attack were enemies of Saudi Arabia as well. Osama Bin Laden would have happily shot the entire Saudi royal family.
Worth bearing in mind that we never actually retaliated against the power most closely tied to the attackers.
Most of the people involved were Saudi and they may have had Saudi assistance. Instead we invaded Afghanistan where he was for a period of time, and Iraq who had nothing to do with anything.So Russia attacking the US could plausibly result in us suspending habeus corpus, abolishing the FDA and spending a decade embroiled in a land war in Azerbaijan.
