• RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Oh no! Shithole country doing shit things, who woulda thunk it. Shoulda stayed out of the shitty country if she wanted to avoid shitty things. Seems pretty simple. It may not be fair but it sure as shit ain’t sad. Plenty of dead Ukranians don’t get to live at all.

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      15 days ago

      Yeah it’s so simple to just live wherever you want, especially this magical fantasy land where shitty things don’t happen.

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        15 days ago

        Yeah it’s so simple to just live wherever you want

        It is when you hold multiple citizenships. You tend to have more options if you’re considered native in multiple countries. You should have read the article.

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          Excuse me, presumptuous one. I did read the article and I know she has dual citizenship.

          I was not talking solely about visas, though that is obviously the limit of your imagination.

          There are also family, professional opportunities, and cultural ties to consider.

          In the article it actually says she moved to the US in 2015. It’s unclear why she was there to be charged. Visiting family perhaps? Oh well then I guess she deserves it for having the audacious stupidity to visit her parents in a shitty country where shitty things happen?

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            Visiting family perhaps? Oh well then I guess she deserves it for having the audacious stupidity to visit her parents in a shitty country where shitty things happen?

            Honestly… Yes. You left the country. Obtained a second citizenship. And donated to the opposing side of an active war. If you have something in between your ears you stay out of the country. I’m not here to victim blame at all. If you need to see family, I get it… but Zoom exists. You can’t argue

            There are also family, professional opportunities, and cultural ties to consider.

            While in the very next sentence identifying that she did exactly that and moved anyway.

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              14 days ago

              Zoom exists. You can’t argue.

              LOL you’re absolutely correct. I cannot argue with someone who clearly has no real life experience of their own to provide an actual frame of reference, and will just pop off fast solutions to things like the deep human need for connection like “use zoom, duh.”

              So I won’t try.

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                14 days ago

                and will just pop off fast solutions to things like the deep human need for connection like “use zoom, duh.”

                There are other needs as well. Like not being imprisoned. And thinking about why you fled from the country in the first place and searched for additional citizenship might have helped make such a decision to not find yourself in such a situation.

                I love that you glossed over the actual argument though! All while assuming that you were right. You don’t know why she was there… But assuming that telecommunication wouldn’t have been sufficient in order to maintain her freedom… That’s just silly.