• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    US is system is so bad. The constant pandering to “founding fathers” as if it’s even possible to have strong enough vision that it would last 200+ years and refusal to innovate past the ridiculous two party system is just sad tbh.

    Yet nothing will change because you can’t change these things without a revolution apparently.

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      20 days ago

      The majority voted for the candidate I don’t like. That means democracy is broken.

      Trump said the exact same thing in 2020 and was rightly condemned for it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Get used to it.

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        20 days ago

        The majority voted for the candidate I don’t like. That means democracy is broken.

        Don’t worry, the US democracy was already broken. That became painfully clear when Trump started whining about not winning the popular vote when he was elected the first time. Being able to lose while having the support of the majority of voters is proof enough:

        Hillary: 65,853,625 votes

        Trump: 62,985,106 votes

        Not every vote has the same weight, which is just completely bonkers and proof that your archaic system is due for a retrofit. Let’s just hope it won’t get chucked away entirely in the coming years.

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            19 days ago

            Why? Trump won fair (proverbial at least, I don’t think all the misinformation that has been spewed on X counts as ‘fair’) and square this year, but that doesn’t mean your system isn’t flawed. Votes from certain states still carry less weight due to improperly distributed electors. Same happened with Gore vs Bush by the way.

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              18 days ago

              What part of “he won the popular vote” did you not understand? Across all states, more people voted for him than for Harris. Even if there was no electoral college, he would still be president.

              Unless you’re arguing that electoral college votes should be redistributed in a way that ensures the winner will always be a Democrat…

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                17 days ago

                Across all states, more people voted for him than for Harris.

                I never said otherwise.

                Unless you’re arguing that electoral college votes should be redistributed in a way that ensures the winner will always be a Democrat…

                No, I’m saying that your system needs to be fixed so every vote has the same weight, that’s all. The fact that the term ‘popular vote’ exists at all is the flaw. Who won this year is irrelevant to the argument.