• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    So overall, I think mexico does need a third party to fight the cartels. Anyone living in mexico probably has family there. Andcthe cartels have soo much influence that they can get at just about anyone. So a local force just can’t take the country back. Now the current government of mexico can’t willingly let a third party in, because then the cartels would go after them. So something like this where the third party is unhinged enough to do it on it’s own is actually a decent way for it to happen. So let trump start his war on the cartels. It might actually end up as a good thing. The next president can run on ending that war and cooperating with the Mexican government to give them true control of thier country again… because by then, hopefully the cartels are weakened enough to allow the government to win.
    This feels like a broken clock is right twice a day kind of thing. He may accidentally bring about a good thing for all the wrong reasons.

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      So I follow your logic… but fuck me if that doesn’t just sound like post hoc justification for invading your next door neighbor in an ultra nationalistic way.

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    They’re going to use the Palestine strategy aren’t they?

    “Oh there are drug cartels hiding in this hospital! Drug labs in this school! We need to bomb it! Humanitarian aid workers? They’re actually Hamas double agents! We mean drug cartels or whatever.”

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    Haven’t we already demonstrated that we can’t successfully hold a mountainous desert against the will of its population in the modern era?

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    If this happened in a video game, this is how you’d end up in a bizzaro situation where you’d have Russian bases in Mexico. Trump has bad advisors.

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    16 hours ago

    Dude you’d never believe this I have donny gets assassinated by the cartel on my bingo card!

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    Here’s how that’s going to go:

    • He’ll send in the military and they’ll successfully kill some “drug dealers”.
    • Mexico will be (rightly) pissed AF.
    • Mexico will retaliate by just ending all exports to the US of some essential goods (e.g. tomatoes, car parts).
    • The price of those goods will skyrocket. Business will close. White people who voted for Trump will bitch that, “he’s hurting the wrong people” again (leopards eating faces).
    • Mexico will refuse to take “back” their immigrants because of Trump’s bullshit.
    • Trump will “suddenly” need to jail a lot more “illegals” that he’s rounded up.
    • They’ll start making up stories about how all the millions of people in the concentration camps are nasty criminals and murderers… As an excuse for the poor treatment and blatant raping and murdering going on.
    • Right wing media will tow the party line. Anyone defending the “criminals” (which will include families with children) is a traitor to the country.

    History will repeat itself.

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      I just cant imagine any of his lackeys being organized enough to build a camp network that can hold millions of people. My bet is they will will try to cram hundreds of thousands into camps that can only hold tens of thousands, fail, give up, then declare victory.

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        I just cant imagine any of his lackeys being organized enough to build a camp network that can hold millions of people.

        That’s why they’ll outsource it to a private company (owned by one of their donors) with zero oversight.

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          Which takes us right back to the start. Embezzling money wont help hold that many people. The number were looking at is an order of magnitude greater than all people currently imprisoned in the US, which is already a huge number and major expense. Trying to come up with a camp system to hold people at that scale is just not the sort of logistical challenge that gets resolved within Trump’s attention span.

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    So, this is what you do to your #1trade partner

    • Level 100% tarrifs on their goods

    • dump millions of deportees on them

    • invade them with military

    IDK about you, but to me it sounds a little counter productive

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      What you were expecting a productive presidency this time around?

      They’ll sure produce a lot of bullshit lies.

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      “The only thing trump can produce on a counter is E Coli! The BEST E Coli! HahaHAH, stupid Libs!!!”

      - trump, probably. (Never trust a person that speaks in 3rd person.)

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    Given the level of expertise in the trump regime, this can only possibly end with mexico reclaiming texas. I hope they rename it Alamonia. To remember.

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    This is hilarious, I just wrote a comment the other day stating:

    “… If Mexico goes socialist for any reason, will see Canadian soldiers in the front line annexing Mexico with the US.”

    And the response I got was “Pure insanity”

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    I can’t make it a fucking day without making a sardonic, cynical joke based on old sci-fi nerd shit till BAM yeah, getting degrees in poli sci and econ were a waste of time, my nerd sense as a child ( + the ability to discern fantastical elements from plausible elements of a story) was all that was actually needed to learn about the future.

    So anyway, Ghost in the Shell timeline it is then.

    Obviously minus the impossible robotic/cybernetic tech.

    Season 2, Episode 14 of Stand Alone Complex.

    Most of the episode is a flashback to the 2020’s, where its established that America invades Mexico with the goal of stopping the cartels, and both sides are using PMCs/Mercenaries.

    (Blackwater never went away, they just changed names a bunch of times, now they’ve merged/consolidated with a bunch of other similar PMCs into Constellis… Trump pardoned 4 of the Blackwater guys in the Nisour Square massacre in Iraq at the end of his last term, so they’re obviously in his rolodex)

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    What’s more amusing is how they’ve all cried about how illegals are invading the country. If we invade and annex Mexico, are they still illegals?

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    Trump has reportedly been gathering “battle plans” to attack drug cartels in Mexico since early 2023, with or without Mexico’s permission.

    One source close to Trump told Rolling Stone about a plan for a “soft” invasion of the country, in which U.S. special forces would assassinate cartel leaders covertly

    These actions vary in their level of force, including drone strikes and airstrikes against cartel targets such as drug labs, sending military advisers and trainers to Mexico, sending “kill teams” to the country, using cyberwarfare against drug lords and their organizations, and the assassination plan.

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      Sounds accurate. He thinks things work like 80s action movies. He probably literally got mad when they told him Rambo was a fictional character, so they had to force some guy to legally change his name to Rambo so Trump would be happy.

      The idea that you can just “send” “special forces” “assassins” to kill cartel leaders in a foreign country is fairly challenging just as an accomplishsble mission, let alone factoring in the potential and very serious blowback from the cartels AND the Mexican government.

      $20 says he recently watched Sicario or something.